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#28353 - 01/22/12 02:35 AM this game is dead
phordicus Offline
wywrdn
Crossed Swords


Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 75
[blam].

Anyone wanting to play is easily better off doing tcp/ip.

No isp-bound-email registration requirement killed myth (unlike mnet's initial implementation). No consequences for antisocial behavior. If you could do your job as admins there'd be more than 30 active players. [deleted for language]


Edited by MNA_Om (01/22/12 10:58 AM)
Edit Reason: language

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#28354 - 01/22/12 03:06 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
stoopid Offline
adrenaline
Axes with Shield


Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 674
easy there, Tonto. i can agree with some of your post, but pulling the plug is a bit extreme.
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#28355 - 01/22/12 04:31 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: stoopid]
dropkick Offline
Crossed Swords


Registered: 05/15/08
Posts: 90
myth has been dead for several years.

pull the plug, we'll find another drug.

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#28356 - 01/22/12 10:49 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: dropkick]
vigor Offline
Rush
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 12/30/10
Posts: 27
Loc: Sweden
With all the discussions going on here I'd say that's a sign of life. As is the complains, they show people care.
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#28357 - 01/22/12 10:57 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
Mariusnet has always had rules designed to make mariusnet a friendly place to play Myth. Always.

If you find you are unable to play civilly on mariusnet I fully support your idea to play games via TCP/IP.

Or - if you feel there are a number of people who feel similarly to you, I would encourage you to look into setting up your own server. It's not that hard, any windows computer bought in the last 10 years could run a server, and the source code for a myth game server is available for free at the Tain, and just yesterday punkuser (one of the programming gurus over at projectmagma) offered to help Kirk set up a myth game server. Maybe you could get together with Kirk and set up a server for everyone who finds the mnet rules unpleasant.

It's always been my understanding that mariusnet would rather have a handful of people active who can play games in a friendly environment than have hundreds or even dozens who can't or won't follow the rules.

If you don't like this online community you are welcome to leave, but the server isn't up just for your personal enjoyment, just because you are unhappy or decide to leave is no reason to shut the server down.


If you do decide that mariusnet isn't for you, then ggs, and gl.


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#28358 - 01/22/12 12:00 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
no one in this thread said anything about setting up another server. no one cares about that. this server is pretty useless, and if it were to go down, people would be organizing games via tcp/ip all the same. I have done it on several occasions when I was banned, and I had no problems organizing games, people got word and showed up on my tcp/ip host all the same because they enjoyed playing with me.

the server gives us a chat lobby, that is all. whoopdi-do. even with the lobby, many players find themselves just joining games to just use the pre-game lobby to chat there instead, and avoid the whiners who are offended by chat in an online game. as wwo mentions, many of us would probably be better off anyway doing tcp/ip and find it more enjoyable instead of a so-called "friendly environment" designed to facilitate a handful of people who want their 10 year old kids to be able to play online on a mature-rated game. Coincidentally also moderated by a guy who views himself as a "teacher" and the players, his "students," who then goes around calling others anti-social while ironically displaying serious social issues of his own.

Tournaments are what bring the myth community together, not servers. always has been, always will be. and the vast majority of players who have been around the tournament community for years would agree with wwo's sentiment. in the end though, none of us really care. it isn't a matter of "deciding" if mariusnet is for us or not. we log onto the server because it is there. if it wasn't there or we were banned, we wouldn't really care either, we would just tcp/ip all the same, or go play something else.

that was a really cute post though om, I have no doubt you will make many more of them. and I look forward to it, many of us find them highly amusing.

ggs and gl to you too.

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#28359 - 01/22/12 01:05 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
pyro Offline
Pyro
Axes with Shield


Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 586
Loc: TX
The word filter is weird. If you click on quote for wwo's post you can see there is an entire sentence that was consumed by the word filter.
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#28361 - 01/22/12 02:30 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
spongefile Offline
spongefoo
Shield


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 249
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
LOL so if I set you guys up with an unmoderated server, you'll use that from now on? If you promise, I might just give it a go.
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#28362 - 01/22/12 02:36 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
myrkridon Offline
Myrk
Crossed Axes


Registered: 07/01/07
Posts: 117
True enough, Myth's basically a refuge for antisocial morons now.
I get my strategy fix from SC2 now - love being able to mute idiots in games.

 Originally Posted By: phordicus
Kill the server.

[blam].

Anyone wanting to play is easily better off doing tcp/ip.

No isp-bound-email registration requirement killed myth (unlike mnet's initial implementation). No consequences for antisocial behavior. If you could do your job as admins there'd be more than 30 active players. [deleted for language]

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#28363 - 01/22/12 02:42 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: myrkridon]
spongefile Offline
spongefoo
Shield


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 249
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Ehh...antisocial morons are just louder, so it seems like there are more of them.
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#28364 - 01/22/12 03:34 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: spongefile]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
LOL yes omgosh an unmoderated server so people will stop hurting me with their words over the internet.

true to my expectations, you completely missed the point of my post.

make a server if you want, no one cares.

or don't, we still don't care.

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#28365 - 01/22/12 04:34 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
spongefile Offline
spongefoo
Shield


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 249
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Clearly, given the choice, if it were easy, if it were as much "there" as Mariusnet is, you'd prefer to play on an unmoderated server so you could stop being oppressed by the people paying for this one. (You could even taste the joys of community management! Ban! Field complaints! Be like unto a GOD!) Otherwise you aren't making any sense. \:\)
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#28371 - 01/22/12 07:14 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
"babychesty" I mentioned people setting up their own server because obviously people are getting some value from mariusnet or they wouldn't be annoyed at being banned. since - as you said - the only thing Mariusnet provides that TCP/IP doesn't is a lobby to chat in and a place to meet, I suggested a new server so that players unhappy with mnet could still have lobbies and places to chat and meet. You don't want that? Fine, some players might find that of value. If you don't find the gameserver useful you can leave at anytime, no hard feelings.

As for the motivations of the people who started or currently own mariusnet and who set the rules, I have never heard any of them mention having children or friends who have children - so I am pretty sure that's not the reason the rules for behavior are in place. It may shock you to find out someday when you move out of your parent's basement and have to interact with people in the real world that the guidelines for how to behave on mariusnet are pretty much basic rules for treating people civilly in society. The rules aren't age specific, they apply to people of all ages. You don't like them? You think they are juvenile? That's fine, then obviously mariusnet wasn't intended or designed for you.

If you don't like something try to avoid it - doing something "just because it is there" is a pretty lame excuse. If mariusnet doesn't provide anything of value to you then don't log on. Simple. If it does - as a responsible human - you get to decide whether the benefits it provides you for free (a place to meet and chat) is worth following the rules. If it isn't then you should use TCP/IP and play your games that way.

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#28373 - 01/22/12 07:34 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
exactly the posts i would of expected

ill just reiterate how much i could not care less.

keep going through the motions though if it helps you sleep better at night. mentor us oh great moderator of mariusnet. you are the teacher and we are the students. lol.

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#28374 - 01/22/12 08:10 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
punkUser Offline
Three Daggers


Registered: 06/17/09
Posts: 15
Clearly some people do care - a lot - about being banned on Mariusnet. I completely agree with you that TCP/IP or setting up a new metaserver is pretty easy, so I'm often confused at why people do care about bans and rules on Mariusnet so much.

As for metaservers, they are just a slightly more convenient way to look at what games are being played and meet up with people who want to play than forums/IM/etc. Sure TCP/IP works great between people who already know each other, but it's nice to have somewhere to come for the people who just want to play a few games.


Edited by punkUser (01/22/12 08:14 PM)

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#28375 - 01/22/12 09:14 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
If you didn't care, you wouldn't bother posting.

If you really didn't care, you would leave.

So you can say you don't care all you want, but if you stay, you care.



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#28376 - 01/22/12 09:22 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
you totally got me brah

or i just find your posts highly amusing

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#28377 - 01/22/12 09:28 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
Yes, probably you are laughing so hard while reading my posts that you accidentally lean on the keyboard and hit the 'reply' button and as you are convulsing in laughter at my latest unintentional bon mot your shaking causes your elbow to type whole semi-coherent sentences, and then as you pause to catch your breath you bump the mouse and it clicks the submit button.

Obviously I was silly to think you cared enough to make the effort of replying.

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#28378 - 01/22/12 09:40 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
i'm glad you are catching on. LOL.
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#28379 - 01/22/12 10:47 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
Well that makes one of us.
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#28380 - 01/23/12 01:15 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
arcan Offline
Crossed Swords


Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 79
I love this server.
Why is it that every so often somebody comes to the forums yelling" It's dead it's dead pull the plug. The last nail is being driven in." ??
I found the new Maruisnet by accident. I am one happy camper. It must be nice to have a list of people you can TCP IP with.
The rules aren't that stiff and it's not that hard to understand the owners reasons for them. Sure it's the internet and there be languages and trolls, but this isn't the internet. It's a privately owned server that you can access through the internet.
My self I find none of the chat offensive. In fact, at times it's down right entertaining.
I have nobody wanked from my host because of language or trolling. I agree, the world is an interesting place, Colorful and different. If your offended you always have the option to not be there, but that's my host and basically my server.
What I don't understand; Why doesn't one of the lobby squatters have a game open just for the adult chatting. Your just sitting there taking up electron space, browsing the web, running other programs, whatever. The answer is.. Nobody probably wants to be bothered with it.
So, PPE bothers to host this site. Is following his rules really that hard? Sure the conversations get out of hand sometimes. It happens, people having a good time, you forget where your at. A reminder from the admin is not that oppressive and hosting your own game, to chat in, seems a whole lot easier than hosting your own server. Does Om go over the top sometimes? Well... That's not for us to decide.
Thank you Dude for hosting this site. Thank you people for taking the time to keep this 13 yr old unique game alive. I enjoy it. People from Australia, Poland, Pakistan, the UK, the US, Brazil, Canada... Where else are you going to meet these people? Where else are you going to play Myth.
"This game is dead this game is dead" Sigh.. If this game is dead to you then the simplest solution is; Don't go away mad just...

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#28381 - 01/23/12 01:45 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
spongefile Offline
spongefoo
Shield


Registered: 04/19/08
Posts: 249
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Caring gets you what you want more often than not. Having to pretend you don't is the tragedy of adolescence.
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#28382 - 01/23/12 01:54 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: spongefile]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
what exactly was I supposed to be caring about? and what was it that I was trying to get? Please do tell. I look forward to your reply.
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#28384 - 01/23/12 07:24 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
pangea Offline
Spa
Crossed Axes


Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 128
Loc: New Jersy
wwo - I was thinking the same thing at different times throughout the past 9 years. But I keep coming to its bedside, holding its hand, speaking to it through its veil of foggy coma.

The reason I do, is because - every now and then - its eyeball moves behind its eyelid - and I know its got some impulse of living... perhaps a memory of what life once was.

Sitting at bedside, telling it stories of MWC with over 100 teams of 16... by hosting new MWCs with 8 teams of 5 - its frail little body just can't take it at times, and I know it must seem merciful to want to take it off the machines that support its life.

But, its children and grandchildren might want to get to know it too. These machines that keep it alive have actually breathed an artificial life into it that, at times, makes it appear as though its healthy and well.

Before we pull the plug, lets make sure that everyone from the family gets to visit, to pay their respects - perhaps to weigh in on the DNR order.

I never would have figured you for the Dr Kevorkian type, especially since I have seen you at the patient's bedsides from time to time in these waning years.

or... are you just measuring it for a coffin?

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#28388 - 01/23/12 12:12 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: pangea]
stoopid Offline
adrenaline
Axes with Shield


Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 674
if you honestly don't care, gkg, perhaps you can spare us your weekly mazz tales.
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#28393 - 01/23/12 04:04 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: stoopid]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
So u say its dead huh?
Its only dead cause of the following [redacted]
Meat,Loki,Pogue i guess u will dont find them cause most of the times they are hiding behind their second accs (its cause when they heard whats happening on the forum they got scared cause they are totally the only one reason why ppl thinks that te game is bad).I try to keep myth alive but its rly hard thanks to these players.Also i wondering that who are the trully owners of mariusnet are they care abou thrir server do they know whats happenin in the games do they get reports from the admins and if they get what are the admins sayin in these reports and why they cant fix the ban button (evrybody can rejoin after gettin banned with a new email or at least thats what rumors are sayin


Edited by MNA_Om (01/23/12 04:23 PM)
Edit Reason: language: keep it up and you will lose the ability to talk on the forums

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#28395 - 01/23/12 04:22 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: alfiakiraly]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
There is only one current owner of mariusnet; 'ppe' aka user 'plataypus'.

It is impossible to police what happens in a game. If you find hosts are letting things go on in games that you are uncomfortable with or just don't feel like dealing with your best bet is to let the host know, and if the host doesn't care don't join games hosted by that host.

Some of the tools admins and the owners have to manage problems on the server are quite old and outdated and less effective today then when mariusnet was first created.

Rumors say a lot of things, but you'll notice the forums have been pretty quiet the past few days? That's not an accident or coincidence.

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#28396 - 01/23/12 06:15 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: stoopid]
babychesty Offline
Crossed Axes


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 104
LOL adren is still not over it.

I fail to see how mazz has anything to do with this conversation, but thank you for continuing to prove what a fine job I have done on you.

a masterpiece really.

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#28397 - 01/23/12 07:27 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: babychesty]
taint Offline
I thralling hate blade
Shield


Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 164
Great thread, as usual, gentlemen.
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#28398 - 01/24/12 04:15 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: phordicus]
leningradius Offline
Dagger


Registered: 01/21/12
Posts: 1
emo thread.
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#28400 - 01/24/12 01:27 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
First of all:Dude what do u think why i wrote fu674@*- with the numbers second do that guy take care about his mariusnet server ?third u know that rly good too that making the forum quiet is not the best option(forumbaning the ppl).
Yea yea i know its not by an accident but then why the server has admins?
U said the server and the tools are outdated as far as i know admins arein the game to keep it updated u know... not the forum.
Why are those tools outdated is there anyone in dat team who still making updates for the game or for the server??

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#28401 - 01/24/12 02:53 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: alfiakiraly]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
alfiakiraly: to answer some of your questions:

"dude" you need to read the rules. Notice the part that I bolded below.

 Quote:
The Official marius net Rules

Offenses

Transmitting any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable content, as determined by any marius net Admin. This includes vulgar and abusive language, even when masked by symbolic characters or misspelled, and includes screen names, profiles, and game names. If it cannot be said on prime time network television, do not say it on marius net.


When someone refuses to follow the rules for this forum, removing their ability to post to the forum is a perfectly reasonable solution.

Admins are not 'in the game to keep it updated'. Admins are in the game to help players who have difficulty connecting to mariusnet or getting their accounts working and to try to maintain mariusnet as a friendly environment. "Mariusnet" includes both the game server and the forums, the rules are for both places.

The maintenance and updating of the Myth game is being performed by a different group of individuals. You can usually find one or more of them hanging out on the magma forums. They are not mariusnet, and we are not them.


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#28402 - 01/24/12 03:18 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
How about if u are not guarding the forum and take urself in the game just whatch it for somedays(of course with a diff acc)
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#28403 - 01/24/12 03:36 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
Actually if admins want to keep up the good environment u are right they do it on THE FORUMS.But there must be admins who are in the game chatrooms playing whith other players sometimes take a look on the chat and if they find somethin wrong they chat ban the guy for 1 day or more or at least they warn him.If mariusnet doednt have admins designed for this objective well i dunno man mb another server would be better to known as an offical myth multiplayer server.
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#28404 - 01/24/12 03:44 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: alfiakiraly]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
MNA_Om
Lord


Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
You must be new here.

There are people who agree with you, and then there are people who complain everytime an admin does anything so much that you would think someone just ran over their favorite puppy. (these are generally the same people who claim not to care)

People do get chat banned. That's why there are people talking about setting up a new server - not so they can have more rules and more active admins but so they can have no rules and no admins.


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#28405 - 01/24/12 03:48 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
Just an idea i dont care of the owner what will say for this. u admins take the controll and begin to choose some ppl who recently playin myth and they are clever and they cant be confused or controlled by another players.their name should be somethin like that (Ga)=game admin
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#28406 - 01/24/12 03:51 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
Im not new here i ve just started a topic about annoying players and its just launched many other things in the forum and in the game
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#28407 - 01/24/12 06:16 PM Re: this game is dead [Re: MNA_Om]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
Well after many threads i still dunno what is so hard to make a step chosse the game admins if u want to save an OFFICAL MYTH COMMUNITY.Otherwise ppl will make their step u dont care but the rules hahaha the rules how funny thats the thing what u care rly lemme tell u somethin if a server is in danger (players preparing to leave it)admins make some intresting choices and they change some things in order to save the server (u will no earn so much by shutting down some of the threads or forumban the ppl).Think a bit about why areu chossen to be an admin yea u said some things about it but then a a question u wanna keep alive the game or u wanna stick to the rules.
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#28412 - 01/25/12 10:50 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: alfiakiraly]
clue Offline
Two Daggers


Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 6
Alfi is obviously new otherwise he would know we have a conversation about this every year, and myth still lives on cuz even though ppl say it's dead, those ppl usually still show up at MWC every year so I suggest Alfi stops trying to cause problems and just enjoy the game.

Edited by clue (01/25/12 10:50 AM)

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#28413 - 01/25/12 11:57 AM Re: this game is dead [Re: clue]
alfiakiraly Offline
Sword & Dagger


Registered: 07/07/11
Posts: 28
Im not causing any problems and actually i support the game by uploading vids about it on youtube.Those ppl showin on mwcs cause they dont have too much choice im just sayin the facts most in the online games the ban button is made for email adresses and FOR THE IP.those admin tools must be updated.
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