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#28296 - 01/19/12 11:00 AM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: MNA_Om]
stoopid Offline
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#28304 - 01/20/12 03:04 AM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: MNA_Om]
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@Om: Was responding directly to pog's assertion above: " I highly doubt anyone has left myth just on the basis of being called a _______, and if they're really that fragile, well they shouldn't even go near the internet."

The point remains: people aren't fragile, they simply have options. Option A: play a game where people swear at you and freak out if you mess up. Option B: play a different game where they don't. Option C: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/online_gaming

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#28305 - 01/20/12 09:07 AM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: spongefile]
pangea Offline
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Registered: 06/09/07
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Loc: New Jersy
Option C works for me.

That's also why we tend to coop exclusively - since that brand of play doesn't usually attract the element we're trying to avoid.

Truth be told - the best times I've had with myth were large, random, two-team and t-ffa games with CP, fs, civil, BMF, GfH, etc. Many in attendance were admins, and if some dorks showed up and started acting up beyond tolerable levels - we'd jump on our admin accounts, then boot him from the server for the night.

Abuse of power? - yeah. We always reasoned that that's exactly what they wanted/needed anyway, and we could get back to fun.

Nowadays - we have mute and wank - which essentially do the same thing. Untoward and unwelcome behavior in chat lobbies has been part of online gaming since it began.

Persistent trolling, which annoys folks and drives them away from the game is mostly a consequence of a having a free server that allows people to create an unlimited number of free accounts.

I'd be willing to pay an annual fee for access to a moderated or restricted room that might be good to bring friends and family to.

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#28306 - 01/20/12 10:07 AM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: spongefile]
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Registered: 12/02/08
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I got your intent, and in a world where everyone acted like adults your usage wouldn't be a problem.

As for choosing to play a game where people don't act like emotionally stunted sociopaths, the unfortunate part is that mariusnet's founders and current management intend(ed) mariusnet to be the kind of place where people could play Myth in a civil environment. And it was that for several years while there was more than one server running. Once playmyth.net shut down it's gameserver, all the riff-raff and undesireables (along with the majority of playmyth users who were civil and reasonably mature) migrated to mariusnet.

Unfortunately, since mariusnet is a free server requiring only an email account to join we don't really have the tools to keep mariusnet the kind of environment we would like it to be.

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#28307 - 01/20/12 11:07 AM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: MNA_Om]
hadiez Offline
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Registered: 03/31/07
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Good point OM, all these trolls are from PMnet.. lets give them the boot... most specifically the likes of 5555 guy, pog2 and bunny.. (and zak once he finishes making Clue2 for the CLUE CHAMPS of 2011/2012)

sooo.. that would leave the population of players at uhmmm.. 1 admin, adren and hadiez?

..perfect



Edited by hadiez (01/20/12 11:07 AM)
Edit Reason: zak portion of post

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#28308 - 01/20/12 12:20 PM Re: my conversation with pogue [Re: hadiez]
MNA_Om Administrator Offline
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Registered: 12/02/08
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Stop trying to pick fights or fan the flames hadiez.

Anyone who played on mnet before playmyth closed can vouch for how much the tenor of the marius server changed with the influx of players from playmyth who were used to different rules. It's not a debatable issue, it's a fact.

You need to keep in mind that mariusnet isn't a public service like a governmental handout, it's a private club. To the best of my knowledge mariusnet's goal has never been to keep myth going no matter what, it's been to provide a fun place for anyone to play myth, and 'fun' is defined by the person who owns mariusnet - roughly translated: fun means fun for people who can have fun playing a game without the juvenile small-minded racist/sexual-orientation/ageist/religionist/gender bashing that some people insist on spouting.

Mariusnet isn't meant for everyone, and the previous and present owner of mariusnet have said that they'd rather mariusnet have 3 active players who are good sports and treat each other like grownups than have the lobbies full of hundreds of jerks whose only fun is picking on other people or talking like they haven't gotten over the novelty of learning how to swear. Most mariusnet users don't fall into the latter camp of course.

So Mariusnet doesn't care how many people play on the server if it becomes a cesspool where people won't bring their friends or where people leave because of the harrassment they receive for doing noob things.

Frankly I think given the number of complaints about behavior that still come in via email and on the forums year after year I am suprised mariusnet is still up and that the owner hasn't shut it down out of annoyance/disgust that people won't follow his rules. He gives people a free place to play Myth and all he asks in return is that players follow a few rather simple, and easy to understand rules that shouldn't even have to be spelled out as they are pretty much how normal civilized people treat each other.

[And no, for anyone new to the discussion, I don't set the rules. I am not the owner of mariusnet, I just try to keep some semblance of order on the forums and to a lesser extent the server. If I have misconstrued either past or present mariusnt owner's intentions I expect they will correct my comments where necessary]

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