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#28238 - 01/16/12 10:28 AM
my conversation with pogue
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pangea
| Spa |
Crossed Axes
Registered: 06/09/07
Posts: 128
Loc: New Jersy
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I popped onto Mnet after the playoff game on Sunday, hoping to find others who were rolling up their sleeves for a game and gaming. Upon landing in the lobby, there seemed to be an all-too-familiar chat going on about how much America sucks in every way.
When tossing out a few silly quips - hoping to turn the tide towards something with less bile and hate-spewing - I unwittingly drew the attention of he who appeared to be the lynch-pin of the chat; Pogue.
With all of his venom at a fevered pitch, he (unprovoked) wheeled on me - challenging my choice to play mazz mostly, and to have wanked him at some point in the past - and he fervently launched into how retarded, senile, gay, moronic, worthless, .... (etc) ... I and my family are.
Withing a few lines of chat, I realized that it was futile and frustrating to try to chat with him, since every response was an ignorant and personal attack on my character, my family, my wife, my life in general. I opted instead to host a game, which filled up quickly and we played for hours.
I was just now sitting on the toilet - which I found to be a perfect time to reflect on the situation, and realized that I was wrong to think that Pogue acts this way because he is young/immature. I know nothing about how old he is, and would honeslty be surprised to learn if he is anything older than a teenager.
The truth is, I have a 12 year old son - who I do not allow to log onto Mariusnet (to avoid such ignorant and rude behavior) - and he is far more intelligent, rational, mature, and socially aware than I have ever seen Pogue be.
I know that Pogue, and those like him, have been banned repeatedly - and I am probably not the only host to have wanked him or muted him for cause. However, with the shrinking community - I guess you could argue - what's the point of banning someone?
I suppose my argument would be - the community has shrunk because of people like him. I personally know of a few dozen former myth players that would not bother returning because of the several dozen players that can't seem to figure this out.
My version of self-policing of guys like Pogue, dac, etc...is working fine for me. Mute and Wank offer me the blissful ignorance I seek on mariusnet....
.... but the fact remains - as long as people like that remain - many more won't.
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#28241 - 01/16/12 02:57 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: hadiez]
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pyro
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Axes with Shield
Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 586
Loc: TX
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Both and other reasons actually. I too have seen some players stop showing up because they lose interest due to all the drama others are so willing to give out. Can it be avoided? Sure, but those players find it easier just not showing up. Sometimes its just temporary, but once they stop for a while it is easier to stop longer than that.
The less players there are the less games some people want will be hosted. So other players stop showing up because of the few choices of games being hosted.
Getting rid of the drama queens (even temporary) can help prevent losing players. As for the lack of game options, that would be harder to prevent/solve. It would require more players and more hosts.
As for the reasons people continue to play the same specific maps, it really depends on the player. Some players will settle with what little options there are while others give up or take breaks. There are also the players that see some maps as having enough variety to continue playing over and over. For some of the multiplayer maps, they see it as different every round because of the different choices their opponents take making it different enough each round for them. For Mazz, well it has things the others don't and if more maps had it less Mazz would be played.
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#28242 - 01/16/12 04:40 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: hadiez]
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erileykc
Sword & Dagger
Registered: 11/09/10
Posts: 31
Loc: WDC in USA
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I vote with my feet very fast when the lobby or a game has one or more disagreeable people doing their best imitation of a spoiled 13 year old. Thats just one of course. There might be other grown ups here to though.
Yankee
Serious question, do people really quit playing Myth because of a person or persons? Or do people quit because on average there are 20 people online, 10 people afk, and 8 people playing Mazz or Trow/PG/Gimble? I find it hard to believe that users are fully entertained and enjoy playing the same maps for 14 years? ... snip ... Anyways, GO GIANTS!
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Yankee
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#28250 - 01/16/12 06:46 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: pog2]
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hadiez
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Crossed Axes
Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 118
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Serious question, do people really quit playing Myth because of a person or persons? Apparently, Kirk made Babyshaker quit for good and now OM has made it his personal mission to constantly ban Kirk for no real reason, but to just ban him. Stuff like that kills myth, because Kirk will host games for ppl, and is a lot of fun to play with, but OM seems to think banning him and not letting him talk in the lobby is a good idea. I don't see your logic in talking about saving the community and getting more ppl to play when you want to ban players. Do you ppl seriously think there aren't trolls and ppl who rage out at other ppl on other games? That is just delusional. Probably the reason a lot of new ppl don't play myth for long is because they get sick of being raped by ppl that have been playing for 12 years and don't want to take the time to get good at it. Losing is not fun, so why not play something else? I highly doubt anyone has left myth just on the basis of being called a retard, and if they're really that fragile, well they shouldn't even go near the internet.
ah, i thought babyshaker died.. all he played was great library and landing at white falls anyway.. was funny seeing that everyday though..
games arent fun without classic trolls and drama, imo
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#28257 - 01/16/12 09:00 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: hadiez]
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pog2
Sword & Dagger
Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 40
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At the end of the day my myth friends like Dac, Hadiez, pk, and, Dr. Giant Killer General, are all staples of this community, and make it a better place, and also good at myth...well mb not dac, but that's another story. Furthermore unlike spa and bonky they know what they're talking about and aren't to quote my late, dear friend alfi "griefers." I applaud you gentlemen, you make this game an absolute pleasure. I'd say lets hug it out with Spa but he has us all wanked LOL
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#28258 - 01/16/12 10:19 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: pog2]
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hadiez
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Crossed Axes
Registered: 03/31/07
Posts: 118
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At the end of the day my myth friends like Dac, Hadiez, pk, and, Dr. Giant Killer General, are all staples of this community, and make it a better place, and also good at myth...well mb not dac, but that's another story. Furthermore unlike spa and bonky they know what they're talking about and aren't to quote my late, dear friend alfi "griefers." I applaud you gentlemen, you make this game an absolute pleasure. I'd say lets hug it out with Spa but he has us all wanked LOL
We're not friends anymore after you killed me with the Candlestick in the Kitchen. Damn you, Colonel Mustard..
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#28261 - 01/16/12 11:59 PM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: pangea]
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myrkridon
| Myrk |
Crossed Axes
Registered: 07/01/07
Posts: 117
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Pogue's just mad because he's 40, still flips burgers at McDonald's, has never had a girlfriend, and knows that, like GKG, his life is going nowhere. Just passing on what he told me the last time I talked him out of suicide. Feel better Pogue
I popped onto Mnet after the playoff game on Sunday, hoping to find others who were rolling up their sleeves for a game and gaming. Upon landing in the lobby, there seemed to be an all-too-familiar chat going on about how much America sucks in every way.
When tossing out a few silly quips - hoping to turn the tide towards something with less bile and hate-spewing - I unwittingly drew the attention of he who appeared to be the lynch-pin of the chat; Pogue.
With all of his venom at a fevered pitch, he (unprovoked) wheeled on me - challenging my choice to play mazz mostly, and to have wanked him at some point in the past - and he fervently launched into how retarded, senile, gay, moronic, worthless, .... (etc) ... I and my family are.
Withing a few lines of chat, I realized that it was futile and frustrating to try to chat with him, since every response was an ignorant and personal attack on my character, my family, my wife, my life in general. I opted instead to host a game, which filled up quickly and we played for hours.
I was just now sitting on the toilet - which I found to be a perfect time to reflect on the situation, and realized that I was wrong to think that Pogue acts this way because he is young/immature. I know nothing about how old he is, and would honeslty be surprised to learn if he is anything older than a teenager.
The truth is, I have a 12 year old son - who I do not allow to log onto Mariusnet (to avoid such ignorant and rude behavior) - and he is far more intelligent, rational, mature, and socially aware than I have ever seen Pogue be.
I know that Pogue, and those like him, have been banned repeatedly - and I am probably not the only host to have wanked him or muted him for cause. However, with the shrinking community - I guess you could argue - what's the point of banning someone?
I suppose my argument would be - the community has shrunk because of people like him. I personally know of a few dozen former myth players that would not bother returning because of the several dozen players that can't seem to figure this out.
My version of self-policing of guys like Pogue, dac, etc...is working fine for me. Mute and Wank offer me the blissful ignorance I seek on mariusnet....
.... but the fact remains - as long as people like that remain - many more won't.
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#28262 - 01/17/12 01:27 AM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: myrkridon]
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pog2
Sword & Dagger
Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 40
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Yeah you got me Myrk. I see someone has been taking insult lessons from godcops.
Godcops School Of Insulting:
1) Person works at a fast food place. 2) Person is over 35 and has no life. 3) Never had a girlfriend.
So predictable, but I must say I am honored that you broke your post MWC defeat (yet again) silence to talk to me. I am humbled by your 5 orange balls. BTW speaking of no life, you have like 29 facebook friends, and now that you pissed off NC that number has dwindled to about 20 just, lol Myrk. It's gonna be interesting to see who wants you on their team this year...oh wait....you could form a team with godcops. PERFECT SOLUTION.
Ok btw Kirk owned you yet again, and LOL at you getting benched in like half the finals games, when you did play you got totally owned on top of that, my personal favorite was the Lichen game after you got stomped, "this game is a joke." LOL
SO basically pretty much anyone that has claimed to be as good as you at this game and played since the beginning has won at least one MWC, except you. Keep trying Myrk, I hope 2012 is your year! Maybe you can be Orange Guy on the new Game Changers squad with ppl like: West Wind and bizkit, oh wait....
Finally, I think it only fitting to end with this:
HONKEY 1 MYRK 0 GGS
LOL
Edited by pog2 (01/17/12 01:38 AM)
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#28263 - 01/17/12 09:16 AM
Re: my conversation with pogue
[Re: pog2]
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MNA_Om
| MNA_Om |
Lord
Registered: 12/02/08
Posts: 1832
Loc: mariusnet.com
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Your understanding of the language rules is inaccurate. The rules cover more than what you consider 'bad words'. Try reading again, and paying attention to the intent of the rule rather than looking for a list of banned words.
"Transmitting any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable content, as determined by any marius net Admin. This includes vulgar and abusive language, even when masked by symbolic characters or misspelled, and includes screen names, profiles, and game names. If it cannot be said on prime time network television, do not say it on marius net."
If your intent in using 'non-bad' words is to convey something you can't because it would be against the rules, then you probably shouldn't say it.
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