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#2818 - 11/13/07 08:41 AM How can I make a tagset 'anywhere' ?
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It's been quite a while since I messed with Fear and Loathing.. and played Myth.. now I see all these 'anywhere' tagsets. I remember there was the WW2 units tagset that made them work on all kinds of maps, as well.

How can I make a tagset work 'anywhere' ? I'd also like to know how to extend it to work on other third party maps that had *other* tagset units.

Thanks,
Iso
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#2821 - 11/13/07 10:23 AM Re: How can I make a tagset 'anywhere' ? [Re: isolder]
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 Originally Posted By: isolder
It's been quite a while since I messed with Fear and Loathing.. and played Myth.. now I see all these 'anywhere' tagsets. I remember there was the WW2 units tagset that made them work on all kinds of maps, as well.

How can I make a tagset work 'anywhere' ? I'd also like to know how to extend it to work on other third party maps that had *other* tagset units.


All these 'anywhere' tagsets were created by one person, Baak'lor. to really make a tagset work 'anywhere' or even almost anywhere you need to change hundreds of unit tags for each unit set you want to change. You can't ever make an 'anywhere' unit set that will always work on any map because as soon as someone creates a new unit/mons tag your plugin won't replace that unit. Baak's anywhere tagsets are a lot more than simple 'make this unit into this other unit' plugs because in some cases you would end up with so many high powered units the maps would be unplayable. His plugins sometimes magically 'eliminate units' from maps so if you are for example using 'Uber Ghol Riot' on the Desert map you won't end up with 75 ghols on each team each needing to be micromanaged and have their weapon inventory replenished - that would just be unplayable even with large teams. They are also finely tuned and extensively tested.

Also, the _____ Anywhere name is Baak's name for his plugins, if you do create a unit replacement tagset you should definitely name it something else. It would be bad form to use that brand(ing) name for your own projects. For ex, I created a few spotty unit tag replacement sets that pre-dated baak's anywhere plugins and mine were named things like "IwishIhadMoreSlugfest" or "IwishIhadMoreDorfs" - I am SURE baak would have just used my naming convention if I hadn't thought of it first. ;p
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#2823 - 11/13/07 12:21 PM Re: How can I make a tagset 'anywhere' ? [Re: vinylrake]
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Isolder, fun playing Marathon with you last night! \:\) . vr, you gotta try it!

In case Baak doesn't see this, you might head over to the Order of Hpak forum, http://www.orderofhpak.com/forums/index.php , and pose the question. Maybe he can give you tips on the mechanics to cover the issues vr mentioned.
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#3010 - 11/20/07 06:24 AM Re: How can I make a tagset 'anywhere' ? [Re: vinylrake]
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 Originally Posted By: vinylrake
All these 'anywhere' tagsets were created by one person, Baak'lor.

stfu wtf is this bs.
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#3025 - 11/20/07 10:49 AM Re: How can I make a tagset 'anywhere' ? [Re: golden_god]
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The tagsets called 'WWII Anywhere' and 'Worlds Collide Anywhere' and 'MythWarrior Anywhere' WERE created by one person. he didn't create the Original Unit sets, but he created the 'anywhere' tagsets that let you play those units on ANY map.

If you don't understand the difference between the original unit tagsets and and the "anywhere" tagsets mb you should read about them before you speak.
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