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#24494 - 06/16/10 09:33 PM Version 1.5 not working??
Xplod_ Offline
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hey everyone, i just started playing Myth TFL again and im playing on my new vista laptop. i looked up some info and i figured it would need some sort of patchinge etc. anyways i found out the 1.5 patch or new version on projectmagma would enable me to play, and it HAS, however whenever I win the mission, or hit restart it boots me back to the desktop... its very weird. I am wondering if I need to move it into a different file, or if i did something wrong. i'm new to the site but im a dedicated player (or was) so if anyone could help you would have a new loyal member \:\)

thanks ahead of time

Edited by Xplod_ (06/16/10 09:33 PM)
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#24500 - 06/17/10 01:24 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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After it crashes there should be something in a file called myth_log.txt inside your Myth TFL folder. Please post the contents so if possible we can see what is going wrong.

Additionally, you can download the Myth II demo from http://projectmagma.net/what/ and play it online on Mariusnet with the same username and password as you've used for this website.
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#24501 - 06/17/10 02:58 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: eddaweaver]
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Have you updated your video card drivers? By the way, there is a Myth 2 plugin that lets you play the TFL campaign under Myth 2. Also, Myth 2 has a "TFL gameplay" setting to let the game act like TFL. And finally a TFL Interface plugin that makes Myth2 look like TFL.
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#24502 - 06/17/10 03:57 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: eddaweaver]
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thanks for the quick response, here i am copy pasting everything i found in the log, hope it helps:



2010-06-16 19:53:57
Myth: TFL Build 264 running under Modern Windows 6.000000 ----------------------------------------------
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3495: Unable to open a file to check if it is a tag file (is tagedit or extractor open?) Err: 32
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3478: File Myth_TFL.exe in the externals folder offsets are bad!
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3478: File Myth_TFL_old.exe in the externals folder offsets are bad!
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3483: File Readme_1.5.pdf in the externals folder has invalid flags!
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3478: File Smackw32.dll in the externals folder offsets are bad!
Error: File system General in .\Myth1Code\tag_files.c, line #3495: Unable to open a file to check if it is a tag file (is tagedit or extractor open?) Err: 5
Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Mouse appears to have 7 buttons and 3 axes.
Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768

Using Max Resolution Size x:1366 y:768
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#24511 - 06/17/10 04:48 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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I wonder if one of your files is corrupt or something. I'm on XP and TFL runs fine, but I guess I should test it out on the Vista comp I got. There are a few things to try.

Try changing your computer's resolution. TFL will use your desktop's resolution. I know that 1024x768 works.

If that does not work maybe we can try compatibility mode. Right click properties on the Myth_TFL.exe file. Click on the compatibility tab and check the box for Compatibility Mode. Select Windows XP.
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#24513 - 06/17/10 06:25 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: pyro]
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ugh just tried both of those, neither is working. idk if this is relevant, but i have to run my myth from the patched version, when i click the original or "Myth_TFL_Old" it says error not enough memory or w/e so I can play thru the projectmagma patch but once again whenever I win a level or hit restart it boots me to desktop >.<
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#24515 - 06/17/10 07:45 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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Is this TFL folder old or was it recently installed? If it is old, one thing you can try is reinstalling it. Then updating to 1.5 afterwards. I've heard in the past how this helped some people, something to do with updating from TFL to 1.4 and then 1.5 causing them issues.

As for the "old" exe, what happens is that the update does not get rid of the exe it has. It renames it to have the word "old" at the end.
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#24516 - 06/17/10 08:08 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: pyro]
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unfortunately no, i had it on my old desktop but just installed it on my laptop 2 days ago.. i appreciate all your help pyro, maybe an admin could lend a hand too? sorry about all this, im just itching to play some myth sooo bad!
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#24517 - 06/17/10 09:40 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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An admin won't really be that much more helpful unless they were to suggest something I have forgotten about. Besides, you might have better luck over at the project magma forums where the programmers would more likely take notice. However, it is not the first time someone has tried to get TFL running and was unable to.

I was looking through some older threads at the magma forums about similar threads. Turned out in one of them I posted a similar myth log as you after running TFL on the vista comp I have. But I was able to run it without crashing. Do you have vista updated? What about your video card graphics? Did you try a different rendering option in TFL's prefs?

If you can't get it to run, your only option would be M2's The Fallen Levels plugin using vTFL mode to enable TFL gameplay in Myth 2.
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#24521 - 06/17/10 10:02 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: pyro]
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ive posted it on the projectmagma forums lets hope for the best, and if i get it running ill be sure to let u know. thanks for all the help pyro you've been of huge aid to this unknown guy (me) and i wont forget it

Edited by Xplod_ (06/17/10 10:45 PM)
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#24523 - 06/17/10 11:14 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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Like Pyro said, admins here aren't necessarily going to know more about why Myth itself is bombing - that's definitely a topic for magma devs.

One thing I vaguely recall - the 'not enough memory' message... could that be related to setting Myth to run in 'compatibility mode' or something like that?something about new processors or the way they multithread memory not being recognized properly by Myth.

i just looked and there's several topics started by people who have had problems (not unlike yours) getting Myth TFL to run.
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#24526 - 06/18/10 01:25 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: MNA_Om]
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Om, Myth TFL 1.3 had a bug which prevented it from working if more than ~640mb of RAM is installed.

I think the old Myth II did the same if more than 2gb was installed.
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#24530 - 06/18/10 09:08 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: eddaweaver]
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Obviously I could be misremembering the link between memory error and compatibility mode, but I know people had issues running TFL in Windows Vista (more recently than 1.3) which were resolved by some compatibility mode setting.
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#24535 - 06/18/10 03:45 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: MNA_Om]
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guys what i think went wrong was when i downloaded patch 1.5 i saved it somewhere i probably shouldnt have, if any of u are positive of where the new download SHOULD be placed, in order for the game to function I can verify if I have mine in the wrong spot, b/c i was unsure at the time.

at the moment its with my Myth_TFL_old, myth_log, readme_1.5, smackw32.dll, and submesh cache. idk if this will help im desperate
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#25638 - 12/11/10 09:54 PM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: Xplod_]
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when you download and use a patching application for myth. the original patch application thingy you downloaded can go anywhere on your cpu really the patch application places the right things in the right spot when you run it, in shot it doesn't matter where you put the patch thingy, but if you put it in your myth root folder it might be interfering with myth for some reason mb take the patching application out and put it on your desktop then running it from there.

thats how it works for myth 2 if it is the smae for myth tfl get the patching thingy and put it outside if the folder that has all the other info for myth and run it.

Edited by morgoth6 (12/11/10 10:00 PM)
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#25876 - 01/23/11 01:54 AM Re: Version 1.5 not working?? [Re: morgoth6]
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hey thanks for checking in again, I did get it running a few days after with help from you guys and projectmagma. glad some of the community is still alive and well, cheers to you all!
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