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#22211 - 11/15/09 03:45 PM 8-bit
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I'm trying to make a Myth color map in Paint. I saved the pic I made as 16-bit bitmap. Myth will only accept 8-bit. \:\(
Any advise?
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#22213 - 11/15/09 03:51 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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Use Photoshop or something else that gives you more options than Paint. Maybe Gimp, though I haven't tried it.
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#22214 - 11/15/09 04:01 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: pyro]
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I don't have Photoshop and I have already tried Gimp but I have the same problem.

Edited by Peter99Dineen (11/15/09 05:01 PM)
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#22222 - 11/16/09 03:38 AM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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Did you use an old version of Gimp? Look for an index option. I don't use Gimp so I can't be sure unless I download it. Look harder! \:p
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#22226 - 11/16/09 08:42 AM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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You might try IrfanView or ImageMagick.

IrfanView

ImageMagick
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#22231 - 11/16/09 12:43 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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 Originally Posted By: Peter99Dineen
I don't have Photoshop and I have already tried Gimp but I have the same problem.


did u convert the image to Indexed and select < 256 (240 is a safe#) colors? that in +theory+ should save it as 8-bit when you save it as a .bmp file in gimp. the #of colors is in binary so if you didn't index it with less than 256 colors it's going to need more bits (16 or 32) to store the color info. (i know gimp has a convert to indexed option and lets u pick the #of colors to index to, i just don't know for sure that it uses the #of colors to determine the fileformat.

ps. i don't want to discourage you as i am all for new maps (go mapmaker...it's your birthday....), but you definitely want to use a grafx program with layers if you want to make a decent looking colormap. Paint and other non-layer gfx pgms are notorious for being the source of some really ugly colormaps. Try PhotoGimp if you want something more Photoshop like - it's Gimp but with a photoshop-like interface. (If you haven't seen it, Clem's Colormapping Tutorial is as close to a Colormap 'bible' as you are going to find - I am not very graphically artistic but following his tutorial I was able to produce a decent looking (if not particularly exciting) colormap. -- Colormapping Walkthrough or lots more colormap how-tos .
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#22233 - 11/16/09 01:24 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: vinylrake]
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The walkthrough's link is inaccessable.
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#22235 - 11/16/09 01:42 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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These should work.

Clem's Colormapping Tutorial

Lots more tutorials
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#22239 - 11/16/09 02:45 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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both links work fine (other than bad paren in 2nd link) when i click on them. tried in both firefox and explorer.
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#22240 - 11/16/09 02:46 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: plataypus]
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Thanks PPE. Clem's tutorial redirects to the index though.
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#22248 - 11/16/09 05:58 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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Try the PDF link, it works: http://mything.org/mythgraveyard/file/Clems_colormap_walkthru.pdf
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#22250 - 11/16/09 06:49 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: plataypus]
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all the links (to pdf and zip(s)) on the graveyard page should be working now.
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#22251 - 11/16/09 07:47 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: plataypus]
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Thanks guys. I'll update you on further news.
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#22252 - 11/16/09 07:49 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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After reading that pdf for less than a minute. It had is decided for me. I'm getting photoshop. It just seems far easier and more effective than any of this. \:\)

Thanks for the help guys.
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#22253 - 11/16/09 07:59 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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if money is an object, you could look for an older version of Photoshop. clem mentions he was using PS v6 at the time he wrote the tutorial, but I know from personal experience that versions as far back as v5.5. have all the features mentioned in the walkthrough.

for a general guide of what versions are compatible with which OS try here .
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#22255 - 11/16/09 08:19 PM Re: 8-bit [Re: vinylrake]
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Thanks, man. And no. Money isn't the problem. I just didn't want to spend any unnecessary money as I'm saving up for a new desktop.

Edited by Peter99Dineen (11/16/09 08:24 PM)
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#27441 - 07/19/11 04:38 AM Re: 8-bit [Re: Peter99Dineen]
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hey man if you need help with your map, im very good at making scripts and the strings for custom games. What I am not good at is making colormaps, so feel free to post on the deer forums any questions dineen.

By the way, post about your map on the forums would love to see your progress, Ill be putting a preview of my myth sc2 melee map pack soon.
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