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#22324 - 11/19/09 11:23 PM Re: rankings [Re: vinylrake]
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 Originally Posted By: vinylrake
what do you mean steelaxe? i was just agreeing with falcons observation that games that involve cooperation shouldnt really be factored into a persons rank since they aren't 100% competitive. i think he makes a good case, don't you agree? is there a flaw in my logic somewhere?


sorry, i like to take the lead by about 30 and then kill players from rank 2 and down. it makes it more fun. there is no cooperation with my style of play (thx 4 da heal shotgun meds).

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#22327 - 11/20/09 12:52 AM Re: rankings [Re: golden_god]
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now thats well said
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#22328 - 11/20/09 03:01 AM Re: rankings [Re: steelaxe]
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SteelAxe, VR was being sarcastic.
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#22329 - 11/20/09 03:10 AM Re: rankings [Re: pyro]
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thanks pyro. i didnt know that... ;\)
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#22646 - 12/12/09 04:04 AM Re: rankings [Re: steelaxe]
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After months of development by Jon God and Zeph, Deadfall, a extensive modification of Quarantine, is finally finished. Deadfall is a Zombie based cooperative survival plugin for Myth II. Playable with up to 15 players, Deadfall pits you against nearly 400 AI controlled zombies.


Hi , please either remove this ... Or don't count points of this mod as ffa or any multi versus mesh (except deadfall versus or player vs player games ) .... Still whoever claims that fighting billion of zombies altogether where u heal other people and give them covering fire to run or hide is not a coop then your mind is really sick .
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#22648 - 12/12/09 06:38 AM Re: rankings [Re: yousaf100]
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Are you concerned that all the top positions on the leaderboard are filled by people 'abusing' the ranking system by unimapping Deadfall?
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#22652 - 12/12/09 10:29 AM Re: rankings [Re: MNA_Om]
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That's probably a yes.
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#22653 - 12/12/09 11:14 AM Re: rankings [Re: 123suckit]
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being that the same people have been atop the leaderboard for months, I'm pretty sure that Deadfall has nothing to do with it.
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#22656 - 12/12/09 11:18 AM Re: rankings [Re: plataypus]
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 Originally Posted By: vinylrake
Have you ever even played Infection!? You can kill the other players if you want...

Yeah... Do that and get booted from next game like when you team kill in a regular coop...

 Originally Posted By: golden_god
sorry, i like to take the lead by about 30 and then kill players from rank 2 and down. it makes it more fun. there is no cooperation with my style of play (thx 4 da heal shotgun meds).

As I'm not a very popular player, when I do that I get booted from the infection servers. That's why I agree with yousaf and I think hunting games should not be ranked.
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#22657 - 12/12/09 11:25 AM Re: rankings [Re: giancarlo]
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It sounds like the problem is between you and the hosts you play Deadfall with, not with how the server ranks games.
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#22660 - 12/12/09 01:04 PM Re: rankings [Re: MNA_Om]
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why is this topic still going? hunting shouldn't be ranked. deadfall isn't technically a co-op, but only because hunting is ranked. hunting shouldn't be ranked. deadfall should be considered a co-op. duh. presto.


 Originally Posted By: MNA_Om
Are you concerned that all the top positions on the leaderboard are filled by people 'abusing' the ranking system by unimapping Deadfall?


if anything, people that unimap deadfall get ranked lower, not higher, because it's technically a 12-person ffa (again, "ffa" is used loosely since getting the most kills is secondary to helping the team beat the zombies, which is different than regular hunting. read my last post if you don't understand this).

idiot.


again, i don't know how or how much hunting figured into the ranking system (which, again, it shouldn't), but it would be interesting to know what my omgpoints would be if you didnt count hunting. I'd say I've played about as much deadfall as anybody, and i'd bet my omgrank would go up, but probably not by that much.

a notable exception would also be GKG, who played a lot of deadfall and is still ranked 2. however, he also was a zombie-killing machine, and the games i played with him he was often or always among the top killers.


Edited by dropkick (12/12/09 01:05 PM)

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#22664 - 12/12/09 06:17 PM Re: rankings [Re: dropkick]
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Once again Bone is the voice of wisdom and reason on mariusnet. I salute you sir!
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#22668 - 12/13/09 08:19 AM Re: rankings [Re: 123suckit]
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What "should" or "shouldn't" be ranked is a matter of opinion nothing more. What does get ranked is the games Bungie defined as competitive games. If what went into rank were up for a vote, some people would say only BC "should" count for rank.
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#22673 - 12/13/09 04:36 PM Re: rankings [Re: MNA_Om]
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yet more evidence that you are hopelessly out of touch with this community.

what's more, your reading comprehension is evidently very poor, and you have nothing new to add to this discussion. i'm not going to get sucked into a debate with someone who's ego is too fragile to own up to embarrassment (if I was that shallow I'd have 1000 posts).

"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof." - John Kenneth Galbraith

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#22677 - 12/13/09 07:14 PM Re: rankings [Re: dropkick]
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i think i have played one game of df with gkg, and i play a crap load, he is alright, it's not df that keeps him high up he is just a good player...

Edited by morgoth6 (12/13/09 07:15 PM)
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#22679 - 12/13/09 08:03 PM Re: rankings [Re: dropkick]
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 Originally Posted By: dropkick
yet more evidence that you are hopelessly out of touch with this community.

what's more, your reading comprehension is evidently very poor, and you have nothing new to add to this discussion. i'm not going to get sucked into a debate with someone who's ego is too fragile to own up to embarrassment (if I was that shallow I'd have 1000 posts).

"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof." - John Kenneth Galbraith




AHAHAHA Bone you're my hero.

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#22682 - 12/14/09 08:42 AM Re: rankings [Re: MNA_Om]
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 Originally Posted By: MNA_Om
What "should" or "shouldn't" be ranked is a matter of opinion nothing more. What does get ranked is the games Bungie defined as competitive games. If what went into rank were up for a vote, some people would say only BC "should" count for rank.




Factual and to the point.

Moreover, I don't care how much anybody whines about it, I'm not altering the ranking system just because some think that a particular game type shouldn't be included.

Feel free to continue to discuss, or whine, or whatever, but the ranking system is not changing.
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#22683 - 12/14/09 09:52 AM Re: rankings [Re: plataypus]
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the notion of rank is just embarrassing in this day and age.
we're already pathetic enough that we're all playing a game over 10 years old, do we really need to defend a statistically worthless system of who is the better player?
as depressingly tawdry and contemptible as the "elite" players are, it comes down to nothing more than who has wasted more of their life on this tired game - the correlation between skill and worthlessness is exceedingly high. those with the most skill are the first to lash out at anyone willing to admit this fact.


Edited by drjekyll (12/14/09 09:54 AM)

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#22684 - 12/14/09 11:03 AM Re: rankings [Re: drjekyll]
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lol, perhaps... but rankings are, and have always been, a nice way to see how you stack up against each other.

The reasons for doing, or wanting to do, so are moot. For those that want it, it is there.
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#22685 - 12/14/09 02:07 PM Re: rankings [Re: plataypus]
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their is nothing wrong with hunting being ranked, and if you do not like it, FYI, no one is forcing you to play deadfall.. OR myth for that matter.

PPE already said he is not changing the ranking system, so get over it.
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#22691 - 12/15/09 06:55 AM Re: rankings [Re: steelaxe]
morgoth6 Offline
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aah, but steel, there is sumthing forcing us to play myth, it is the brilliance of the game...

if there was another much younger game of equal brilliance and style then i'm sure there would be nothing holding us to myth...
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#22722 - 12/17/09 04:18 PM Re: rankings [Re: dropkick]
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Registered: 01/09/09
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If you do not like it, find a new server. OH WAIT!
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#22741 - 12/19/09 12:06 PM Re: rankings [Re: Peter99Dineen]
yousaf100 Offline
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When Peter joins a new server >

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#22744 - 12/20/09 03:54 AM Re: rankings [Re: yousaf100]
morgoth6 Offline
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hehe, lol
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#22745 - 12/20/09 04:02 AM Re: rankings [Re: morgoth6]
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the only people that are going to be on the new server are all the retards that got banned from marius
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#22748 - 12/20/09 05:50 AM Re: rankings [Re: steelaxe]
morgoth6 Offline
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that's funny...

cuz i was the 4th member or sumthing, but your comment is warrented really i am "abit" retarded
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