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#22006 - 11/05/09 11:11 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD *** [Re: morgoth6]
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 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
...again, if zak says he has more than 1 account on myth isn't that in it's self a serious breach of rules, this once happened to me on PM they banned my bro's account cuz my dad's(inquisitor) account mine and his were all coming from same IP...


A few thoughts

- If everyone who has multiple accounts is banned, the lobbies will be just about (if not 100%) empty.

- Currently, having more than one account is not by itself grounds for banning or other admin action against a player, it is how the multiple accounts are used that determines whether a player gets gagged/booted/banned or not.

- This is not playmyth, mnet is not run by the same people who ran playmyth. What happened on playmyth is not a good indicator of what will happen on mnet.


Also: from the rules page


"...if the need arises to lock a player's account, it is our general policy to lock all of that player's accounts. In effect, we lock players, not accounts. This is because the account is not the source of the problem, the person using the account is. Therefore, if your account is blammed for something, do not be surprised if all of your accounts are likewise locked."

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#22007 - 11/05/09 01:23 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: MNA_Om]
yousaf100 Offline
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Things can be solved easy way , eh !
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#22008 - 11/05/09 02:14 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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dude you have not won a single ffa game even though your in the game with 2 accounts the only way you'll win is mb if you log into an ffa game with 6 accounts and play with your self .
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#22009 - 11/05/09 02:43 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: harasser]
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 Originally Posted By: harasser
dude you have not won a single ffa game even though your in the game with 2 accounts the only way you'll win is mb if you log into an ffa game with 6 accounts and play with your self .


dude I win tons of ffa games what are you talking about. Ask pogue

anyways golem the only reason you get hateplayed is because you were unfortunate enough to be teamed with someone with an offensive name, like calmlikeabomb
I don't put up with that sort of vulgarity
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#22010 - 11/05/09 02:48 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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and for the record people are mainly upset with me because I don't play ffa the "right" way. They are just using the fact I have multiple accounts as a reason to get me banned. If they are really such an issue lock all but my main one.
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#22011 - 11/05/09 03:08 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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u all care way to much about what other people think.....sounds like low self esteem
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#22012 - 11/05/09 03:53 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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Simple Solution? If you don't need your dummy accounts because you aren't using them to do the activities you are being accused of, you could just use one account.
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#22013 - 11/05/09 03:55 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: MNA_Om]
wylldawgg Offline
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I think everyone should use just 1 account
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#22015 - 11/05/09 08:06 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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Yes, contrary to popular belief Zak has indeed won some ffa games.
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#22020 - 11/05/09 10:40 PM Re: If u want zak banned from marius for 1 year wr [Re: wylldawgg]
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well everyone is scared !
 Originally Posted By: "tirri"
zak keeps terrorizing everyone and raping and retiring people at will. thats why im afraid to come online. zak is the future of myth

hail zak


 Originally Posted By: wylldawgg
if you have an issue with another mariusnet member please email an administrator this is not the place.


LOL


Edited by yousaf100 (11/05/09 10:44 PM)
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#22034 - 11/06/09 05:40 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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why isn't this the place?... if i wanna yell about it here can't i?

Edited by morgoth6 (11/06/09 05:43 PM)
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#22035 - 11/06/09 06:35 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: morgoth6]
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 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
why isn't this the place?... if i wanna yell about it here can't i?


Who are you to question the admins?

For some reason the admins have allowed this thread to exist, even though whenever I made a thread about banning kirk it was deleted instantly
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#22038 - 11/06/09 08:00 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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I do not think Zak should be banned. If anything, Zak is a product of this community. He is the product of the enormous abuse heaped upon him whenever he logs online. Zak merely behaves the way he does to spite you. He's bought into your preconceptions of him, and has decided, "Ok if this community has decided that I am a menace, very well, I will be a menace."

Zak also reaps the benefits of his poor reputation as many things that aren't his fault in a game tend to be ascribed to him. His excellent maps are regularly nitpicked and insulted on the server not on their merits, but on Zak's name. People suicide in games impersonating him, and people blindly believe that is Zak who is doing it.

What you must ask yourselves is this:

What can I do to control Zak and make him a functioning member of this community once again?

There is too much willingness to destroy relationships on this server, and not enough of a will to build relationships.


Poor Zak. Yet another witch hunt.

We need to look at the real culprit. OURSELVES!

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#22039 - 11/06/09 08:30 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: dbseeker]
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and yet...
i used to think zak was alright...
the swearing and angryness came AFTER he suicided and then denied it, then admitted it unwittingly on the forums, no he is not a production of the abuse the abuse is a product of him...
(i don't dislike people without a good reason- in this case suiciding)
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#22041 - 11/06/09 09:07 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: morgoth6]
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 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
and yet...
i used to think zak was alright...
the swearing and angryness came AFTER he suicided and then denied it, then admitted it unwittingly on the forums, no he is not a production of the abuse the abuse is a product of him...
(i don't dislike people without a good reason- in this case suiciding)


I note your own anger in this thread with regards to accusations that you suicided. Yet you expect Zak to respond calmly to such accusations.

You are guilty of being a hypocrite sir.

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#22044 - 11/07/09 12:08 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: dbseeker]
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 Originally Posted By: dbseeker
 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
and yet...
i used to think zak was alright...
the swearing and angryness came AFTER he suicided and then denied it, then admitted it unwittingly on the forums, no he is not a production of the abuse the abuse is a product of him...
(i don't dislike people without a good reason- in this case suiciding)


I note your own anger in this thread with regards to accusations that you suicided. Yet you expect Zak to respond calmly to such accusations.

You are guilty of being a hypocrite sir.


I had to respond to this,

When did he say that Zak had to respond calmly?

You sir, are guilty of stupidity.
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#22050 - 11/07/09 02:09 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: omicron]
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him swearing and denying it is alright if he isn't guilty, but he is so...

also omicron is right i never said he couldn't shout and yell etc. the main thing is the fact that he suicides and that it's his fault people got angry at him.
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#22052 - 11/07/09 03:09 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: morgoth6]
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I'll admit I will blow up a teammates units out of frustration if they are doing something extremely stupid, or maybe launch a BoP ball to the other team for lul. But come on dude, so many people suicide on this server, many have done it more than I, but I'm treated like some kind of serial-suicider. Maybe if you could provide evidence (game history) that I do it constantly this could be considered a problem. Really you're just mad that I own you in games, and then rub it in your face. I barely even play with you and yet you act like I ruin your myth experience. Clearly I am just SO good at this game that people can't handle it, and I must be removed from the server or they will go down in the rankings. My main 3 detractors are absolut, adren, and gkg, its no coincidence they are ranked 3, 4, and 5 in the leaderboards. If all I did was suicide what would they care. The truth is I target these players in ffas and kill them, lowering their rank. That is why they refuse to check in to games that I am in, convincing the host to boot me because thats the popular thing to do. Notice how players who don't even know me put on the tag "ban zak" because its trendy. Hating zak is just a fad and it will pass, people.
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#22054 - 11/07/09 10:16 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: omicron]
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 Originally Posted By: omicron
 Originally Posted By: dbseeker
 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
and yet...
i used to think zak was alright...
the swearing and angryness came AFTER he suicided and then denied it, then admitted it unwittingly on the forums, no he is not a production of the abuse the abuse is a product of him...
(i don't dislike people without a good reason- in this case suiciding)


I note your own anger in this thread with regards to accusations that you suicided. Yet you expect Zak to respond calmly to such accusations.

You are guilty of being a hypocrite sir.


I had to respond to this,

When did he say that Zak had to respond calmly?

You sir, are guilty of stupidity.


Here is how I arrived at my statement that Morgoth wanted Zak to respond calmly:

Morgoth stated in his post, "I used to think Zak was alright... then the SWEARING AND ANGRYNESS came after he suicided." Then he made the point of suggesting that because of Zak's reactions, he gets abuse heaped upon him. What is part of Zak's reactions - "SWEARING AND ANGRYNESS." If that was not part of Zak's reactions - then there would be no need for Morgoth to enumerate "SWEARING AND ANGRYNESS" in a clause which is then affected by the dependent clause at the end of the sentence.

Then, based upon how the sentence was meant to be read, I made the deduction that if Zak responded differently, there would be no abuse heaped upon him. What is part of Zak responding differently? Instead of 'angryness' and swearing - Zak reacts in an opposite manner - calmly.

I also resent you launching broad personal attacks upon my character based upon this post. To defend Zak is to receive heaps of abuse upon your person. Yet, you guys are trying to state that Zak is the one harassing you.

The only harassment that's being done here is on Zak, and people who defend him.


Edited by dbseeker (11/07/09 10:32 AM)

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#22056 - 11/07/09 11:41 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: morgoth6]
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Most mature persons would be ignoring you dbseeker, you truly are acting childish and ignorant.


 Originally Posted By: morgoth6
and yet...
i used to think zak was alright...
the swearing and angryness came AFTER he suicided and then denied it, then admitted it unwittingly on the forums, no he is not a production of the abuse the abuse is a product of him...
(i don't dislike people without a good reason- in this case suiciding)


Here Morgoth is saying that after Zaknafein would suicide people would become angry with some swearing. However you are either ignoring the actual text or misreading it as Morgoth saying that Zaknafein would swear and become angry after he would suicide.


 Originally Posted By: dbseeker
I also resent you launching broad personal attacks upon my character based upon this post.


 Originally Posted By: dbseeker
You are guilty of being a hypocrite sir.


 Originally Posted By: dbseeker
...you guys are trying to state that Zak is the one harassing you.

The only harassment that's being done here is on Zak, and people who defend him.


You launched a personal attack on morgoth, accusing him of hypocrisy. Your posts have attempted to defame my character, stating I am starting a personal attack on you for the sole reason of a "defense" of Zaknafein.

Now you yourself are seeming to commit the deadly sin of hypocrisy, with your broad personal attacks on those who in this thread are speaking poorly of Zaknafein.

If you simply were not correctly reading the text as explained above, then let us make peace brother, if not, then for shame.


Edited by omicron (11/07/09 12:26 PM)
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#22062 - 11/07/09 12:47 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: omicron]
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 Originally Posted By: omicron
Most mature persons would be ignoring you dbseeker, you truly are acting childish and ignorant.

Now you yourself are seeming to commit the deadly sin of hypocrisy, with your broad personal attacks on those who in this thread are speaking poorly of Zaknafein.

If you simply were not correctly reading the text as explained above, then let us make peace brother, if not, then for shame.


LOL you're proving his point. I guess you aren't very mature because you don't seem to be ignoring his posts, at least according to your own logic. You say one thing and do another, I think thats the definition of a hypocrite. I notice you haven't responded to my post either, probably because what I'm saying is true.


Edited by wylldawgg (11/07/09 12:50 PM)
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#22063 - 11/07/09 01:05 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: omicron]
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First off Zak is correct. There is a difference between making an observation based upon a divergence of views, and the attack you made with no real basis in the post!

According to your logic - Dan Quayle would be guilty of stupidity based

 Originally Posted By: omicron
Most mature persons would be ignoring you dbseeker, you truly are acting childish and ignorant.


Yet another personal attack.

 Quote:
Here Morgoth is saying that after Zaknafein would suicide people would become angry with some swearing. However you are either ignoring the actual text or misreading it as Morgoth saying that Zaknafein would swear and become angry after he would suicide.


There was no other subject present in the sentence at that point other than Zak. If Morgoth intended on saying what you believe he should have said, then he needs to state, "My anger with Zak only started after..."


 Quote:
You launched a personal attack on morgoth, accusing him of hypocrisy. Your posts have attempted to defame my character, stating I am starting a personal attack on you for the sole reason of a "defense" of Zaknafein.

Now you yourself are seeming to commit the deadly sin of hypocrisy, with your broad personal attacks on those who in this thread are speaking poorly of Zaknafein.

If you simply were not correctly reading the text as explained above, then let us make peace brother, if not, then for shame.


If someone says one thing and does another - that is hypocrisy. I pointed that out in my post. I did not call Morgoth, stupid, dumbass, idiot, etc. I merely made an observation about his post.

By calling me stupid, you are going beyond the text at hand and making a broad assertion based upon what might be at worst, a misunderstanding.

That is a personal attack.

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#22065 - 11/07/09 01:57 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: dbseeker]
yousaf100 Offline
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no one should be banned , If there is a necessity ban zak's dummy logins .... Close this thread .


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#22066 - 11/07/09 02:18 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: yousaf100]
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http://hl.udogs.net/files/Uploads/%20User%20Uploads/Zaknafein%20Uploads/Pics/omicron1.jpg

http://hl.udogs.net/files/Uploads/%20User%20Uploads/Zaknafein%20Uploads/Pics/omicron2.jpg

http://hl.udogs.net/files/Uploads/%20User%20Uploads/Zaknafein%20Uploads/Pics/omicron3.jpg

http://hl.udogs.net/files/Uploads/%20User%20Uploads/Zaknafein%20Uploads/Pics/omicron4.jpg


As you can see in these pictures, the man who is trying to get me wanked is in fact confused about the term suicide. This strongly supports my argument that people are in fact trying to get me banned for rushing them in ffa games. Hilarious
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#22067 - 11/07/09 03:22 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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 Originally Posted By: wylldawgg
As you can see in these pictures, the man who is trying to get me wanked is in fact confused about the term suicide.


if you are going to complain about other people being confused you should get your own facts straight. omicron doesn't like your style of 'playing' that's pretty obvious, but i don't think he said anything about banning you - it's morgoth who's driving the 'ban zak' bandwagon

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#22069 - 11/07/09 03:35 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: vinylrake]
wylldawgg Offline
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 Originally Posted By: vinylrake
 Originally Posted By: wylldawgg
As you can see in these pictures, the man who is trying to get me wanked is in fact confused about the term suicide.


if you are going to complain about other people being confused you should get your own facts straight. omicron doesn't like your style of 'playing' that's pretty obvious, but i don't think he said anything about banning you - it's morgoth who's driving the 'ban zak' bandwagon


actually he said it quite clearly in the final picture, where he says "my goal is to get people to ban you"
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#22071 - 11/07/09 04:04 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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i was talking about the conversation here in the forum. i dont pay much attention to easily forged screencaps of server conversations.
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#22073 - 11/07/09 04:11 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: vinylrake]
wylldawgg Offline
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YEAH I FAKED THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION LOL
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#22075 - 11/07/09 04:14 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
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"here are my screennames....

oh wait, that one is a joke.

no that's not me, that's a joke too.

oh obviously that one was a joke."

obviously you find it amusing to lie to people, so lol indeedy. your credibility is non-existent at this point

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#22085 - 11/07/09 04:36 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: vinylrake]
wylldawgg Offline
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yeah thats why I posted screenshots, do I have a history of having fake conversations with myself too??
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#22089 - 11/07/09 08:50 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: wylldawgg]
dp Offline
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you have a history of having fake 1v1 matches with yourself

so why not?
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#22091 - 11/07/09 09:05 PM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: dp]
Bonky Offline
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zaks a liar,who will suicide ,and then deny it was him.He is full of it.I say BAN him
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#22101 - 11/08/09 05:55 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: Bonky]
fellini72 Offline
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Bonky, how do you even know Zak? You're too busy playing WW2 with Horrible Hobbes to even know anything about Zak other than the rumors you hear. If you were even half the myther Zak is, you'd stop playing WW2 with noobs and start playing real myth, which is what all the top players like adren, tirri, arzenic, gkg, and absolut play. Until then just go back to your material WW2 world and *cruiser* off.
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#22103 - 11/08/09 08:00 AM Re: BAN THIS **** HEAD [Re: Bonky]
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An issue has been raised, people have discussed it, admins are aware of it. But Mariusnet is not a democracy, bans are not voted for - there's no point in having people 'vote' whether a particular player is 'deserving' of being banned, so I am locking this thread.

Anyone is welcome to raise any future or ongoing issues of abuse by sending an email to abuse@mariusnet.com.

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