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#21029 - 08/12/09 09:02 AM server traffic graphs
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i wanna propose a thing i thought: do admins have datas about server usage, in terms of online people?

it could be nice to publish them, like graphics showing online players curves related to the day of the week and time; and more in general along the year...
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#21031 - 08/12/09 09:58 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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That would be kinda cool to see, but I don't have any of that data.

The "Who's Online" data is completely transient, none of it is saved anywhere.
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#21034 - 08/12/09 11:15 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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thats a good idea

might help out the admins some

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#21035 - 08/12/09 11:25 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: Sonixboom]
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Sounds like a GREAT idea!

While we are at it, could you publish all the room lobby chat from the server? What would be really cool would be if we could read not only the public chat but all the private chat as well!!!

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#21038 - 08/12/09 11:38 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: vinylrake]
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as usual vinylake talks crap, but seriously i dont think is that hard to save a table of numbers every day
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#21042 - 08/12/09 01:30 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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Actually, all the information is available to you in XML form. Just need a program to watch it and calculate the results.

It's certainly possible, someone did it for Marathon!
http://lochnits.com/mnetviewer/summaries/CurrentMonth.txt
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mnetviewer/

So, why not do it yourself \:\)

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#21046 - 08/12/09 02:14 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: treellama]
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i knew for sure someone would have said the abracadabra phrase "why dont do it yourself"...well...i would do it if i was a site admin. im not a site admin, then the guys with the yellow "A" besides their name should do something if they are admins for real. if they are there just to enjoy their "A" well, cant do anything bout that.
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#21047 - 08/12/09 02:29 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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The guy who wrote that tool, and who publishes Marathon stats, is not a Mariusnet admin.
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#21052 - 08/12/09 07:03 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: treellama]
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 Originally Posted By: treellama
The guy who wrote that tool, and who publishes Marathon stats, is not a Mariusnet admin.


thats because marathon sucks and no one play it so that is easy to do. anyway i the only one way to do that is having a server generated table of server traffic (equals i cant do that, and if someone could do that is an admin).
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#21053 - 08/12/09 07:24 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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http://www.mariusnet.com/ServerStatus.xml

Just as it has been for the last 7 years, that file is freely available data of who is online.
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#21054 - 08/12/09 10:27 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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dude is that the best excuse you can come up with "I can't do it because I am not a site admin"? seriously, wth? xml is used by 10's of thousands of people and there are loads of free guidfes to xml and how-tos - you don't have to be a site admin you just have to have a little intelligence and willingness to learn something other than how to complain that other people won't do things for you for free.

waaaah waaaaah no one will give me what i want... waah waaah "real" admins would do whatever i say, just because i say i want it! waaaah waaaaah. what a whiny little baby you are.

tell me again how much you pay for mnet and why exactly you think it is that anyone should want to do anything for you? what is it that you feel entitles you to demand things from a free gameserver/site?

i've played myth on bungie.net, mariusnet, playmyth, and then again mariusnet 2.0, and i've been grateful to the people who did the work to keep the server up and running and never once felt like any of them OWED me anything. get over yourself and your sense of entitlement. no one owes you anything.

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#21061 - 08/13/09 09:11 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: vinylrake]
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 Originally Posted By: vinylrake
dude is that the best excuse you can come up with "I can't do it because I am not a site admin"? seriously, wth? xml is used by 10's of thousands of people and there are loads of free guidfes to xml and how-tos - you don't have to be a site admin you just have to have a little intelligence and willingness to learn something other than how to complain that other people won't do things for you for free.

waaaah waaaaah no one will give me what i want... waah waaah "real" admins would do whatever i say, just because i say i want it! waaaah waaaaah. what a whiny little baby you are.

tell me again how much you pay for mnet and why exactly you think it is that anyone should want to do anything for you? what is it that you feel entitles you to demand things from a free gameserver/site?

i've played myth on bungie.net, mariusnet, playmyth, and then again mariusnet 2.0, and i've been grateful to the people who did the work to keep the server up and running and never once felt like any of them OWED me anything. get over yourself and your sense of entitlement. no one owes you anything.


lol....i dont know...u dont even deserve an answer since u took your own path on talking random crap about things no one said.

1) its not an "excuse" since u NEED traffic datas. i dont HAVE them. the only ONES who can are ADMINS.

2) im not "asking" or "whining" or "feel they OWE me something" im just PROPOSING. maybe u didnt read the first post very well.

3) i dont sincerely have time to study things that arent about university, architecture, drawing softwares, music, and my girl [blam]. sorry.

4) i payed 0€ for mariusnet, and so? what about you? im curious to know if u put up this story because u paid something and u think u got the right to shoot crap around. u didnt pay? well u'd better stfu to give a better impression, then.

5)i proposed that cause i thought it could have been an interesting and useful thingy for the whole community, and for what i know not hard to do: just do things in a way that the server records the number of players on it, day by day. (by the way, this could be done by an admin, IF THEY WANT, IF THEY THINK IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE). instead raging like an histerical child about other people propose, why dont u propose something u think? or i may think u havent got any idea in that echoing head?

6) despite all this, i keep wandering why admins say "its not my task".if an admin doesnt admin hes not an admin. if an admin just admins is just a jurassic admin.
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#21065 - 08/13/09 10:32 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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1) its not an "excuse" since u NEED traffic datas. i dont HAVE them. the only ONES who can are ADMINS.



Incorrect. Anyone and Everyone has access to that data, as has already been posted more than once.

Here it is again for you, though:


http://www.mariusnet.com/ServerStatus.xml

Just as it has been for the last 7 years, that file is freely available data of who is online.
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#21067 - 08/13/09 10:35 AM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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It IS an excuse, and a lame one at that because, ppe posted a link to the xml data file that contains the stats. ANYONE can look at them or write a pgm/web-page to make charts or graphs or whatever. So saying you can't do it because you aren't an admin is NOT TRUE.

As for you not having the time to learn XML to create the graphs you want, I can understand that, but has it occured to you that the volunteer admins of mariusnet who don't get paid and who (presumably) have lives outside of Myth might have other things that occupy their time? That with their real life time commitments, THEY might not have time to work on projects you think up? And since you HAVE NO IDEA how difficult it is to do what you suggest, why not ASK how difficult it would be before you start claiming that it would be simple?

As to your claim that you are just 'proposing' an idea? You said if admins were REALLY admins they would do this for you, and implied that if they didn't they weren;'t really admins, or were 'jurassic admins' That is not 'proposing' that is trying to manipulate people into doing what you want by insulting them. I paid nothing for access to mariusnet and I am grateful that mariusnet exists so I can play myth online, and because I am grateful for this great service I get for FREE I try not to insult the person who provides this service to me.

Finally, just because YOUR idea of what an admin is doesn't match someone else's doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong. To ME, your insulting of volunteers who provide you a great service for FREE just because they don't do extra things you want them to do is rude and childish. But that's just me - like I said, I have appreciated ALL the people who made all the different Myth game servers available for me to play on - even the ones I didn't get along with personally.

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#21069 - 08/13/09 01:25 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: vinylrake]
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I think he just wants to rant about how useless admins are. Which is fine, because we really are, just don't try to confuse us by disguising it as a request for help!
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#21070 - 08/13/09 01:39 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: treellama]
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i wasnt asking anythiting, manipulating anything. just i dont understand a f*** about xml and dont even wanna learn it, and you americans are [blam] hotheads calm down because i just see people yelling at me without really think. the whole forum is pretty useless. as the whole community is. for this reason.
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#21071 - 08/13/09 01:54 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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 Originally Posted By: VITO
i wasnt asking anythiting, manipulating anything. just i dont understand a f*** about xml and dont even wanna learn it, and you americans are [blam] hotheads calm down because i just see people yelling at me without really think. the whole forum is pretty useless. as the whole community is. for this reason.

You and VR are the only ones yelling in this thread so far, don't lump the rest of us in with him! You are perfectly free to do nothing while accusing the rest of the community of being useless, I won't yell at you.

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#21072 - 08/13/09 02:21 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: treellama]
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 Originally Posted By: treellama
I think he just wants to rant about how useless admins are.


oh i see. in that case i agree with Vito. what good are admins when they won't drop everything and work on whatever idea passed through my head? answer? absolutely nothing.

until admins get off their duffs and fix it so that i can read all public and private chat here on the website, and make it so i join a game already in progress so i can see who's in it and tell them to end the game so I can play, i will insist that admins are useless.

go vito! you tell em! stick it to the man! useless beaurocratic paper pushers never accomplish anything!

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#21074 - 08/13/09 02:40 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: vinylrake]
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i give up. i didnt yell a f***, i just answered point to point to what was said to me. anyway im not interested to this anymore, since it looks like you are too busy saying crap
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#21076 - 08/13/09 04:06 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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Sheesh, y'all give it a rest. You're getting *way* too wound up over nothing.


Vito: If you or anyone else is interested in this, the data IS available. However, it is not something that *I* intend to do any time soon... that, however, does not rule out me doing it in the future. I do have more pressing issues to work on.
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#21081 - 08/13/09 08:32 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: treellama]
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Just FYI, the correct URL for the server status XML is http://www.mariusnet.com/mnetdata/ServerStatus.xml (not that anyone really cares).

 Originally Posted By: treellama
The guy who wrote that tool, and who publishes Marathon stats, is not a Mariusnet admin.


Maybe he should be. Sounds like an outstanding individual.

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#21082 - 08/13/09 10:18 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: Wrkncacnter]
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Just FYI, the correct URL for the server status XML is http://www.mariusnet.com/mnetdata/ServerStatus.xml (not that anyone really cares).


You're right, my bad.... I referenced an old, out of date test file.
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#21097 - 08/14/09 07:23 PM Re: server traffic graphs [Re: VITO]
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 Originally Posted By: VITO
 Originally Posted By: treellama
The guy who wrote that tool, and who publishes Marathon stats, is not a Mariusnet admin.


thats because marathon sucks and no one play it
TAKE IT BACK BITCH!!!!
Why isn't the filter changing bitch?


Edited by Peter99Dineen (08/14/09 07:24 PM)
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